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William Hubbs wrote: |
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> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 06:23:32PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: |
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>> On Saturday 10 October 2009 23:30:05 Matthias Schwarzott wrote: |
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>>> On Samstag, 10. Oktober 2009, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: |
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>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Alin N??stac <mrness@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>>> On 10/9/09 7:57 PM, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: |
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>>>>>> * does new scripts already can do all that was possible with net.* ? |
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>>>>> No. PPP is not compatible with the new scripts. |
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>>>> Major regression. It never pays to drop surprises on people like this. |
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>>>> I *strongly* suggest masking openrc-0.5.1 until the documentation is |
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>>>> updated and a news file is sent. |
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>>>> |
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>>> Why do you suggest masking it immediately? |
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>>> Emerging it without changing any use-flags, has oldnet enabled by default, |
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>>> so user gets exactly the same net init-scripts as with openrc-0.4 before, |
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>>> so where is the regression that needs to be masked? |
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>>> One can still use the same stuff and nobody is forced to transition to the |
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>>> new network script. |
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>>> Regards |
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>>> Matthias |
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>>> |
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>>> |
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>> I agree with Nirbheek. You should always provide an updated documentation ( |
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>> and a news item if necessary ) when you release a new major update of such |
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>> core packages. I would like to see new openrc masked until the documentation |
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>> is ready with full details about the transition to the new network init |
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>> script. |
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>> If you don't provide such documentation in time, you will fail to make users |
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>> switch to new init script in the near future, since everybody will forget |
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>> about this and will use the 'oldnet' use flag anyway. |
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>> The sooner you will explain them how to migrate, the better |
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>> results/feedback/updated systems you will get |
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> I do not agree that masking the new openrc is appropriate, since it |
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> works fine with the oldnet use flag and that is the default (I upgraded |
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> flawlessly and left the use flags alone). |
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> Maybe there should be a warning for now if you turn off the oldnet use |
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> flag that warns you that the new network scripts may not work in all |
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> situations. |
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> Then, when it comes time to migrate, you can drop the oldnet use flag |
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> entirely and explain in a news item how to migrate. |
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Main question is NOT whether it works for you, but whether it will break |
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stuff on significant percent of other users. |
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It broke on my machine, for example, and it was quite disconcerting, |
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since it was at quite inconvenient moment and I had note get to any |
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shred of documentation about ANY kind of substantial behaviour change of |
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new openrc... |
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