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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:07:08
Message-Id: 1319652305.5300.7.camel@belkin4
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08 by Fabian Groffen
1 El mié, 26-10-2011 a las 19:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen escribió:
2 > On 26-10-2011 19:11:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:06:07 +0200
4 > > Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
5 > >
6 > > > > 3) one step towards preventing useless ChangeLog entries.
7 > > >
8 > > > Also this has been discussed and decided upon by the current and
9 > > > previous Councils, so also that opinion is unlikely to suddenly
10 > > > change.
11 > >
12 > > I meant the useless ChangeLog messages done by developers on purpose
13 > > like 'ignore this'.
14 >
15 > Oh, you can just edit them, and "fix" the ChangeLog.
16 >
17 > I hope people will keep on looking for those, and contact the developer
18 > in question to ask him/her to change his/her behaviour.
19 >
20 >
21
22 Why don't we try to reach a consensus? Maybe we should be allowed to
23 simply run echangelog (or whatever is used) to generate a message like:
24 26 Oct 2011; Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> -pangomm-2.26.3.ebuild
25
26 And simply that
27
28 Pros:
29 - People refusing to add a message saying "Drop old" (or similar) could
30 be happy with this, as no redundant information is required to be
31 written in ChangeLog.
32 - Users will still see that a package was removed, as it's indicated
33 with "-" previous removed file.
34
35 What do you think?
36
37 From my point of view, if we don't try to reach a consensus, we will
38 expend time on things to enforce a policy that we could probably expend
39 on other tasks and, then, maybe all of us should try to stop being so
40 strict and try to give in a bit (not sure if it's the way in English to
41 say "ceder" :S)

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