Gentoo Archives: gentoo-dev

From: Vincent Launchbury <vincent@×××××××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:54:14
Message-Id: 4BB4C2FD.5020705@doublecreations.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org by Sebastian Pipping
1 On 03/31/10 16:28, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
2 > I am worried that if people start using say Google Docs for
3 > collaborating on Gentoo content, everyone else is forced to use Google
4 > Docs to participate.
5 >
6 > While I do appreciate projects like TechTalks and Summer of Code I
7 > personally do not trust Google with my data. Also, most of these
8 > services are not Free Software -- I don't trust non-free software.
9 > If they are let's run our instance, not theirs.
10 > if they aren't lets go for something else.
11
12 While I'm not a developer, so it won't affect me, I do agree with
13 Sebastian here. Note that google can change their features at any time,
14 so if you use their services for anything serious, keep in mind that
15 they are controlling how you do so. You may laugh at this, but it has
16 had an effect before.
17
18 Take google analytics for instance, when they pushed the big redesign a
19 couple of years ago. Several features were removed (marketing summary
20 for one), and selecting date ranges can now only be done in flash. Gnash
21 doesn't work well enough yet, so analytics is essentially crippled for
22 free software users.
23
24 > Btw if we really need a shared web-calendar let's make a project for
25 > that and get it done. Ironically, it may even fit for GSOC.
26
27 Google may be fine now, and fit perfectly. But in the long term, I'd
28 agree that developing our own calendar would be a good idea. If there
29 isn't a decent free solution out there already, then developing one from
30 scratch would likely help out other projects too.
31
32 Just my two cents.