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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: redwolfe@×××××.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:40:30
Message-Id: 20120103174020.34306701@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr by "G.Wolfe Woodbury"
1 On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:08:09 -0500
2 "G.Wolfe Woodbury" <redwolfe@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > On 01/03/2012 10:53 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
5 > > On 01/01/12 03:53 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
6 > >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 07:59:47PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
7 > >>> The goal is to deprecate /bin, /lib, /sbin and /usr/sbin. My
8 > >>> understanding is that they want to move software that is
9 > >>> installed in /bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin to /usr/bin. Also, they
10 > >>> want to move everything from /lib to /usr/lib.
11 > >>
12 > >> I don't like this one bit. Things used to be simple with the
13 > >> "split" between
14 > >> /bin and /usr/bin (and its related directories), this isn't going
15 > >> to make it
16 > >> more simple.
17 > >
18 > > I concurr. I will admit that I've been rather out of touch with
19 > > what other distros are doing (and have been for ~3-4 years), but
20 > > combining everything into /usr/bin just seems plain backwards and I
21 > > am rather shocked that all the distros are moving that way.
22 > >
23 > > Has the LFH been updated?? Googling seems to say no, as the last
24 > > mod seems to have been in 2004... I know that, technically, these
25 > > are 'userspace' programs in that they aren't kernel-space, but
26 > > they're still 'system' programs so to me it still makes sense for
27 > > them to be on the 'system' side of the filesystem hierarchy,
28 > > doesn't it?
29 > The problem is that one group of developers is ignoring years of
30 > history and purpose in the separation of /bin and /usr/bin and the
31 > ability of having a separate /usr. This is in the udev development
32 > team and they /deliberately/ placed or used some programs in /usr/bin
33 > instead /bin and requiring that /usr bee in the root partition.
34
35 Please, explain to me, how did they do it? As far as I am aware,
36 autotools installs files where it is told to.
37
38 --
39 Best regards,
40 Michał Górny

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