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From: "Malte S. Stretz" <msquadrat.nospamplease@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:23:39
Message-Id: 200409192323.23736@malte.stretz.eu.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? by Dan Armak
1 On Sunday 19 September 2004 22:37 CET Dan Armak wrote:
2 > On Sunday 19 September 2004 23:26, Joshua J. Berry wrote:
3 > >[...]
4 > > I really do think this is what /opt was intended for. "Add-on" sounds
5 > > to me like it's one of those purposefully open-ended words that you can
6 > > interpret however you like. Actually, the whole section on /opt in the
7 > > FHS reads that way ...
8 >
9 > Well, I simply don't know what they mean by add-on, so obviously you can
10 > interpret it however you like :-)
11 >
12 > However, isn't there -any- consensus on what this is supposed to mean?
13 > Can we just ask the FHS guys if this is so unclear? (And cf. what Ciaran
14 > just replied.)
15
16 I'll ask Daniel Quinlan what he things when pops online.
17
18 But currently each distro does it how the maintainer like it (or interprets
19 the FHS) -- Gentoo uses /usr/kde, SuSE /opt/kde, RedHat something else, and
20 I think Debian throws all the stuff into /usr. To me this sounds like the
21 FHS is flawed if it comes to stuff like this. Even the /usr/X11R6
22 directory is only there because it was always there though an alternative
23 is missing, too.
24
25 Ironically was there lately a discussion on the KDE core-devel list if the
26 default location for KDE should be /opt/kde for KDE 4 (instead
27 of /usr/local).
28
29 If something is broken, it's normally the better to fix it instead of
30 working around. So maybe the FHS should be refined to support what is
31 needed by either adding an additional subdirectory below /usr or a
32 completely new root-level directory. I mean it's not like the place in /
33 is limited by anything and /svc was also added lately (and btw Linux' /sys
34 is completely against the FHS).
35
36 Another thing which cropped up in combination with the macchanger ebuild
37 (the issue is in b.g.o) was that sometimes shomething like /share
38 or /lib/share is needed.
39
40 The current FHS mailinglist is more a spamtrap than anything. Maybe a new
41 one should be created. There a group of people consisting of (a) the
42 previous FHS contributors (b) somebody from each big distro and (c) some
43 people from the bigger desktop environments (or freedesktop.org) can get
44 together and try to fix all the current issues with the FHS and create a
45 version 3.0.
46
47 Cheers,
48 Malte
49
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