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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
Subject: Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:04:39 -0700
On 3/14/12 10:58 AM, Matthew Summers wrote:

> __Everyone__ is already using an initramfs, therefore there are no
> initramfs-less systems anymore (it may just be empty). Every single
> person reading this thread that has not already done so needs to
> immediately go read the relevant documentation located in
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ramfs-rootfs-initramfs.txt,
> then and only then can a real discourse be had.

Yawn, I don't and I won't since I don't need it. Why should I?

> Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
> nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
> etc.

Because at least for me is *totally* pointless.

My main system is with a single partition so I shouldn't care much, I 
have a system that has a separate /usr so probably I'll have *some* pain 
once I'll upgrade it if I don't merge /usr and / partitions before.

Still the whole idea brings us back to the freebsd "everything in /usr" 
while would make more sense go the hurd way "everything in /" if there 
is a sound reason to merge those. Beside the whole 
/usr/share/id-data-du-jour-my-udev-rule-might-need and the I-want-glib 
and I-want-dbus bandwagon I hadn't seen any compelling reason.

Having anything as complex as dbus for early boot sounds dangerous or frail.

lu


References:
Re: Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181
-- William Hubbs
Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- James Broadhead
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181]
-- Duncan
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Joshua Kinard
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Philip Webb
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Greg KH
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Maxim Kammerer
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Zac Medico
Re: Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
-- Matthew Summers
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