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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:05:26
Message-Id: 4F617867.2010208@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! by Matthew Summers
1 On 3/14/12 10:58 AM, Matthew Summers wrote:
2
3 > __Everyone__ is already using an initramfs, therefore there are no
4 > initramfs-less systems anymore (it may just be empty). Every single
5 > person reading this thread that has not already done so needs to
6 > immediately go read the relevant documentation located in
7 > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ramfs-rootfs-initramfs.txt,
8 > then and only then can a real discourse be had.
9
10 Yawn, I don't and I won't since I don't need it. Why should I?
11
12 > Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
13 > nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
14 > etc.
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16 Because at least for me is *totally* pointless.
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18 My main system is with a single partition so I shouldn't care much, I
19 have a system that has a separate /usr so probably I'll have *some* pain
20 once I'll upgrade it if I don't merge /usr and / partitions before.
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22 Still the whole idea brings us back to the freebsd "everything in /usr"
23 while would make more sense go the hurd way "everything in /" if there
24 is a sound reason to merge those. Beside the whole
25 /usr/share/id-data-du-jour-my-udev-rule-might-need and the I-want-glib
26 and I-want-dbus bandwagon I hadn't seen any compelling reason.
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28 Having anything as complex as dbus for early boot sounds dangerous or frail.
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30 lu