On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@...> wrote:
> On 09/24/2011 02:10 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@...>
>>> I believe something needs to be done with the zlib-188.8.131.52-r1 and -r2
>>> packages currently in the tree. The maintainer of zlib pushed those
>>> revisions with a patch that alters macro identifiers, making Gentoo's
>>> incompatible with upstream. As a result, a lot of packages stopped
>>> building. Bug reports for broken packages come in and then are being
>>> modified to fit Gentoo's zlib.
>>> Breaking compatibility with upstream zlib also means that non-portage
>>> software, the ones I install with "./configure --prefix=$HOME/usr&& make
>>> install", also won't build.
>> It seemed to me like this was a silly problem from the outset. vapier
>> did arguably the right thing, and if that means exposing some broken
>> software, fine. We handle plenty of breakage worse than this, but I
>> understand that it can be inconvenient.
>> However, you completely lost any support when you said
>>> Yes, bad idea. But it's in my liberty to write code however I see fit.
>> That just makes me want to slap you.
>> I'll echo what vapier said in response: it's absolutely your
>> prerogative to do whatever you want, but it's not our responsibility
>> to make sure that it works in Gentoo.
> The code is perfectly valid. You cannot force people to follow your coding
> standards. If it's valid C code, it doesn't matter that it contradicts your
> personal preferences. It's not your code and you don't have a saying in it.
> What's next, banning software that indents code with tabs instead of
You are allowed to disagree with his changes; but that doesn't mean we
must listen to you.
I actually disagree with Vapier as well (I don't see why we would act
without waiting for upstream) but I also trust his technical ability
in matters like this.
>>> It's a bad call. You've made plenty of those lately. This is just another
>>> IMO, you don't have the skills and insight to mess with this stuff. So
>>> when you
>>> try, breakage happens. I hope you retire soon.
>> Are you kidding me? Grow up.
> This was just another episode of Vapier's hostile and arrogant behavior
> towards users. Every time someone comes up with a valid argument of why
> he's wrong, the final answer is "don't care, I do what I please because I'm
> the dev and you're not." So my reply was the politest I could come up with
> without using the f-word.
I'm curious what you think the final answer should be?