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From: Alin Nastac <mrness@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@××××××××××××.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please follow keywording policy
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:01:00
Message-Id: 42309969.7040402@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please follow keywording policy by Chris Gianelloni
1 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2
3 >On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 10:36 +0200, Alin Nastac wrote:
4 >
5 >
6 >>Not every time when I receive a new ebuild submittion, I also test that
7 >>package because this is not always possible. Usually, I add the new
8 >>ebuild with ~x86 and let testing to the user who request that. It may
9 >>not be the orthodox way, but the risk of breaking something else in the
10 >>process is 0 (a new ebuild means no other ebuilds depends on it).
11 >>
12 >>
13 >
14 >Add it as ~arch and p.mask it, or get more people to test it *while it
15 >is still in bugzilla* until you are pretty sure that it works, *then*
16 >add it.
17 >
18 >If an ebuild has a DEPEND on >=foo-1.0 and you add foo-1.2, then it
19 >*will* be pulled in as a dependency, so you can't possibly say that
20 >nothing depends on it and be serious.
21 >
22 >
23 >
24 Please read what I've wrote above. I said "I receive a new ebuild",
25 wouldn't I?
26 You can keep your straight face...
27
28 As for ~arch and p.mask, please read again
29 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4
30 under "Masked packages".
31
32 >>Users don't usually come to me and say "that ebuild works for me". I
33 >>take silence as a sign that everything works. I am sure I'm not the only
34 >>one doing that.
35 >>
36 >>
37 >
38 >No. Everyone else is making sure the ebuild works before adding it.
39 >The truth is that you've just been lucky, so far.
40 >
41 >
42 >
43 Yeah, luck, that's for sure! I would be more careful before I would make
44 such implausible statements. I did worked in portage for about 5-6
45 months, you know, and I wasn't idling on IRC! What are the odds to keep
46 being lucky every time ?
47
48 >>I ask arches to mark a new ebuild as stable because a know bug have been
49 >>solved or because the old stable version breaks something else.
50 >>
51 >>
52 >
53 >Great. Don't start a hissy fit on -dev when they don't mark it stable
54 >because they can't test it. Especially when you haven't made a good
55 >effort to contact them to resolve the problem. Airing your dirty
56 >laundry out in public just makes you look white trash... ;] This isn't
57 >Jerry Springer. We don't need to know who your baby's daddy is. A
58 >simple email to the mips team could have kept all of this from even
59 >being an issue.
60 >
61 >
62 >
63 I did apologized to mips team, remember? Again, I apologies for my
64 overreaction. I should have waited for a month...
65
66 This disscution is started to be both juvenile and counter-productive. I
67 regret that.
68
69 Btw, what is your position, being QA manager and all, regarding
70 http://bugs.gentoo.org/reports.cgi?product=Gentoo+Linux&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A
71 ?
72 Isn't it one of the top QA's priorities to assure that all known bugs
73 are resolved? Or, as ciaranm's membership to mips, you don't do that
74 part of the QA?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Please follow keywording policy Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>