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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
Subject: Re: have portage be quiet by default
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:09:05 +0100
Zac Medico schrieb:
> On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things (adding quiet-build=n to the
>> default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log) and what i or others do get from
>> that. And less lines on the screen is no added value for me, it removes value.
> 
> Why should we expose new users to legacy defaults that are useless to
> more than 99% users, when they would most likely prefer the
> --quiet-build display?

Why should we change the default behaviour for existing users? Those, who dont want to see it,
probably already use --jobs or quiet-build=y. For the rest, they either dont know about those
options (which does not get better, if some default behaviour changes) or they dont want those
options (in which case you force them to change their configuration/scripts/way to do things).

Additionally, do you have any numbers about existing or new users and about the percentage, which
would like the build output to be quiet? Otherwise i see such lines as guess and could say the same
about the exact opposite view ;-)

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