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From: Jeremy Olexa <darkside@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:10:47
Message-Id: b5d5dafbf3ba71d02f87c4bcaecd8bf4@jolexa.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn by Richard Freeman
1 On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:37 -0500, Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
2 wrote:
3 > On 01/11/2010 06:30 PM, Arnaud Launay wrote:
4 >>
5 >> As a newsmaster, I'm a bit concerned by this.
6 >
7 > Yeah, inn seems like a really high-profile package to mask for removal.
8 > It would be conspicuous in its absence.
9 >
10 > Would it make sense to post on -dev BEFORE masking packages like this?
11 > I'm sure there are lots of people who would chip in before something
12 > like this dies.
13
14 (A general reply, not targeted towards you, Rich)
15
16 Speaking on behalf of the treecleaners:
17 The fact is, some of us have never heard of "inn" and until Gentoo has
18 some sort of "popularity tracking" software/tool, the treecleaners will
19 continue to mask unmaintained software. We can't possible know about every
20 package in the tree and if it looks like it is unmaintained (open bugs w/o
21 action) then we will mask it for removal unless someone fixes it and
22 maintains it.
23
24 Let's all move on here and be happy that someone is now maintaining such a
25 popular package. Thanks jer/rej - I'll add you to metadata so it doesn't
26 become unmaintained again :) Wasn't there a GSoC project on popularity of
27 packages? Let's get it implemented already! ;)
28
29 -Jeremy
30
31 >
32 > Right now lots of users are going to get errors due to a masked package
33 > until somebody takes the initiative to fix it. I suspect that nobody
34 > wants to poke their head up and risk getting it shot off by doing
35 > something like that...
36 >
37 > Perhaps Gentoo needs a little more of Wikipedia's "Be Bold" attitude and
38
39 > a little less of their "delete first and ask questions later" attitude.
40 >
41 > Note - I'm not suggesting the problem shouldn't be fixed - I'm just
42 > suggesting that in this case the solution is worse than the original
43 > problem.
44 >
45 > Rich

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>