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From: Robert Buchholz <rbu@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: Maciej Mrozowski <reavertm@××××××.fm>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:45:05
Message-Id: 200908220145.00956.rbu@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' by Maciej Mrozowski
1 On Saturday 22 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
2 > It's true, but being able to modularize profile may outweights the
3 > need to be strict-with-the-book here - it's a matter of usefulness. I
4 > think it should be decided by those who actually do the work in
5 > profile, whether it's worthy to push this now instead of waiting for
6 > EAPI approval.
7 >
8 > So, can profile developers share their view?
9
10 We have kept SLOT dependencies and other >EAPI-0 features out of the
11 tree profiles, introduced profile EAPI versioning to foster
12 interoperability. Now what you propose is to break this deliberate
13 upgrade process to introduce a feature no one proposed for the profiles
14 directory in the last years?
15
16 I wonder what the value of the PMS specification is if every time an
17 inconsistency comes up the argument is raised that it should document
18 portage behavior. EAPI 1, 2 and 3 have been agreed by the council and
19 PMS is in a stage where Portage should obey its definitions and not the
20 other way around.
21 I am not saying that this is the *fastest* way to innovate (although in
22 my opinion it is a good way to keep interoperability).
23 However this PMS process is what council has chosen for Gentoo, and
24 either you follow it, or you try to improve it (working with the PMS
25 subproject people), or you bring up a proposal to redefine how we
26 handle standards within the tree.
27
28 Trying to ignore the fact this standard exists is a way to breakage.
29
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31 Robert

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' Chip Parker <infowolfe@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' AllenJB <gentoo-lists@××××××××××.uk>
[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>