Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?

[William Hubbs]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 04:40:33AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 07/31/2011 03:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> > On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >>> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on
> >>> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long
> >>> time now[1][2][3]
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2]
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr
> >>> [3]
> >>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook?
> >
> >> There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is
> >> the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs
> >> before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if
> >> setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one
> >> up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel.
> >
> >> Can we discuss both options?
> > If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition
> > without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to
> > use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it.
>
> The message is really missing all the context without explanation for
> WHY you want it.
 
 Here is a good argument for supporting this.

 http://tldp.org/LDP/lame/LAME/linux-admin-made-easy/install-partitioning.html

 You can hose your system easier with one big file system with / and
 /usr combined than you can with multiple partitions.

 William