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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:45:44
Message-Id: pan.2009.09.04.04.53.39@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?) by Mounir Lamouri
1 Mounir Lamouri posted on Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:27:34 +0200 as excerpted:
2
3 > Rémi Cardona wrote:
4 >> Mounir Lamouri a écrit :
5 >>> Duncan wrote:
6 >>>> Sebastian Pipping posted:
7 >>>>
8 >>>>> However I do notice that "GPL-2+" could make things easier. Why not
9 >>>>> introduce a license group for it like @GPL-2+
10 >>>>>
11 >>>> I've always thought Gentoo needed "plus" versions of the versioned
12 >>>> licenses, anyway. GPL-2, GPL-2+, GPL-3, and GPL-3+, should all be
13 >>>> different licenses, because really, they are.
14 >>>>
15 >>> AFAIK, GPL-2 and GPL-2+ are not different,
16 >>> may you tell me more about that ?
17 >>
18 >> GPL-2+ means "GPL-2 GPL-3 GPL-4 ..."
19 >>
20 >> Not quite the same thing as just "GPL-2"
21
22 > But the content of the license is the same. That only means you can use
23 > a newer one. I mean we do not need a new license file for that. It's up
24 > to upstream to write somewhere if it's GPL-2 or GPL-2+, am I right ?
25
26 Let me quote a different reply of yours:
27
28 > Groups are not fixing the problem even for free aspect. If I have a
29 > package licensed to LGPL-2, it's not free approved but if it's LGPL-2+,
30 > it is. So I can't add LGPL-2 to @FSF-APPROVED, we agree ?
31
32 While the license text is the same, but for the condition "or greater"
33 which may be written before or after the license, as you point out, the
34 effective difference can be quite large indeed. It's this difference
35 that in practice, we're worried about here. And our labels don't
36 specifically mean anything (aren't legally valid) anyway.
37
38 Thus, IMO we need a GPL2+ license description (and others similar), which
39 would incorporate the GPL2 license, with, probably, a clearly delineated
40 explanation at the top, "Gentoo license note: The authors license these
41 works under the GPL-2 or later license. Following is the GPL-2 version.
42 See also GPL-3, etc." Then a line of underscores or the like, clearly
43 separating that note from the license.
44
45 That would eliminate ambiguity and grouping problems such as you mention
46 above, while, I believe, being legally solid -- as long as our note is
47 clearly delineated from the actual license.
48
49 --
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51 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
52 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman