On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> On 12 August 2010 17:13, Thilo Bangert wrote:
>>> Ben de Groot said:
>>>> On 9 August 2010 14:29, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>> > sure would be nice if someone picked up the installer again ...
>>>>
>>>> No, it wouldn't. Best leave that dead and buried.
>>>
>>> Could you explain why you think so?
>>
>> 1) it was an experiment plagued by bugs, some *very* serious
>
> bugs are not a reason to not work on a solution many found useful
>
>> 2) the normal, "hands-on", follow the handbook, manual install has
>> always been the recommended way to install Gentoo, and could be
>> considered a rite of passage, familiarizing the user with how things
>> are done in this distro
>
> *yawn* ... heralding from the age of "everything is done from the
> console" does not preclude simple and helpful GUI automation. no one
> is talking about changing the recommended install procedure, just
> providing more options. forcing a command line install can also waste
> time on repeat installs as knowledge of the install procedures really
> doesnt help you in maintenance of Gentoo once installed.
>
>> 3) too few people are interested in developing, testing and
>> maintaining this; making it more likely that a revival of this project
>> will result in failure again
>
2 questions:
1) I assume most people who are crazy enough to 'install gentoo on
thousands of machines' use some kind of image based installation
process and not a color-by-numbers install vis-a-vis the handbook?
Has anyone written a Gentoo installer that is not image based?
1.5) There is a hidden assumption here that image based installations
would not work for everyone (likely due to a lack of the 'right'
image; too old, wrong arch, etc...)
2) Has anyone looked at just taking an existing installation framework
(d-i? kickstart?) and just making it run different stuff? I honestly
have not looked at either (someone else at work does that thank god)
but it can't be outside of the realm of impossibility...
-A
> that's why i said "it'd be nice" and not "i'm going to do it"
> -mike
>
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