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On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: |
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>> On 12 August 2010 17:13, Thilo Bangert wrote: |
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>>> Ben de Groot said: |
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>>>> On 9 August 2010 14:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: |
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>>>> > sure would be nice if someone picked up the installer again ... |
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>>>> No, it wouldn't. Best leave that dead and buried. |
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>>> Could you explain why you think so? |
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>> 1) it was an experiment plagued by bugs, some *very* serious |
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> bugs are not a reason to not work on a solution many found useful |
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>> 2) the normal, "hands-on", follow the handbook, manual install has |
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>> always been the recommended way to install Gentoo, and could be |
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>> considered a rite of passage, familiarizing the user with how things |
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>> are done in this distro |
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> *yawn* ... heralding from the age of "everything is done from the |
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> console" does not preclude simple and helpful GUI automation. no one |
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> is talking about changing the recommended install procedure, just |
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> providing more options. forcing a command line install can also waste |
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> time on repeat installs as knowledge of the install procedures really |
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> doesnt help you in maintenance of Gentoo once installed. |
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>> 3) too few people are interested in developing, testing and |
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>> maintaining this; making it more likely that a revival of this project |
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>> will result in failure again |
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2 questions: |
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1) I assume most people who are crazy enough to 'install gentoo on |
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thousands of machines' use some kind of image based installation |
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process and not a color-by-numbers install vis-a-vis the handbook? |
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Has anyone written a Gentoo installer that is not image based? |
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1.5) There is a hidden assumption here that image based installations |
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would not work for everyone (likely due to a lack of the 'right' |
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image; too old, wrong arch, etc...) |
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2) Has anyone looked at just taking an existing installation framework |
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(d-i? kickstart?) and just making it run different stuff? I honestly |
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have not looked at either (someone else at work does that thank god) |
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but it can't be outside of the realm of impossibility... |
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-A |
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> that's why i said "it'd be nice" and not "i'm going to do it" |
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> -mike |
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