Hello, I am very glad to here that a complet networkless install via a
stage3 on the dvd without the installer would be possible again!
But why you write always something about the distfiles? Are there users
who want this? I really don't know.
I personally, think in the same way like you!
It is unecessary, because we got every week new ebuilds und useflags, if
someone would a total customized system he need to load alle sources
(stage1 or save it on the hdd before installation).
But to include the sources need simply too much space. I also think it
it enough to deliver only one stage3 (i686 on the x86-disk, x86-64 on
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 08:47 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:38 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote:
> > Dominique Michel wrote:
> > > When an user or a potential user read it and want to do a networkless install,
> > > it will just use the Live CD install, and just get in trouble. It is even worse
> > > when many Linux magazines will have this CD. And you cannot argue at it is just
> > > to use catalyst or to burn a CD from a stage 3, when the doc say "a bootable CD
> > > that contains everything you need to get Gentoo Linux up and running."
> > That statement is still true. I have done 3 networkless installations
> > for this release, without a problem. I used the installer. Using it you
> > get your box up and running fast and convenient, so what exactly is the
> > problem? It's not like you can't get Gentoo running without a network
> > connection anymore.
> The problem is that it is a change, and our users resist changes.
> While I appreciate the input from our users, I have no intentions on
> "going backwards" to what we had before. I was planning on adding more
> content to the LiveDVD images next time around, such as more packages,
> and likely the stage3 tarball. Whether I include any distfiles or not
> is still up in the air, mostly due to the massive number of bugs that
> were caused every single release due to people using the provided
> distfiles/packages incorrectly. We simply don't have enough manpower to
> test every single possible combination of USE and packages during the
> release cycle and our calls for testing usually go mostly unanswered.
> We saw a definite increase in the number of developers helping with
> testing this past release, but we still need more.
> At any rate, the next release will allow a user to *very* easily to
> networkless installs *without* requiring them use the installer itself.
> I will have this documented by that time, so there's no need to fret
> over it.
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