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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:24:31
Message-Id: 44FB3928.8040201@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe by Chris Gianelloni
1 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
2 > On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 07:41 +0000, Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote:
3 >> its developers. Edgar's call was targeted mostly at releng and QA teams, who
4 >> should poke developers to decrease number of similar problems.
5 >
6 > Sorry, but Release Engineering has no wishes to become the "Gentoo
7 > Developer Babysitting Project" at this time. We would much prefer work
8 > on our release media. If some project, for any reason, is not up to
9 > snuff, it is *not* our job to fix it. There are simply too many
10 > projects out there. Would you rather we switch to a Debian model where
11 > everything has to be perfect, but we don't release for 5 years?
12 >
13
14 I'd rather have people ignore trolls (hi Enrico in disguise)
15
16 If something is broken and _NOBODY_ noticed it before either:
17 - it isn't a showstopper for most of the devs and we hadn't got the
18 complaints from our users
19 - it should be p.masked or updated with medium priority.
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21 if our favourite cu-troll wants to point that some programs written by a
22 dog are ugly he could use the same time to fill a proper bug and or
23 provide patches.
24
25 that said releng has the duty to just provide a livecd that works and
26 stages that could be used to start getting a working system and I think
27 they succeeded as usual.
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29 There are some known issue pointed already but nothing could be perfect.
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31 "Release quickly & release often" maybe isn't really THE solution, but
32 "make it to the deadline decently well and plan a -r1 to address some of
33 the known issues that could hit more people in the future(eg new hw
34 support)" looks good enough.
35
36 that said I hope that the sales on trollfood will end ...
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40 Luca Barbato
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42 Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC
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