Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:26:40 schism@×××××××××.org wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:40:48PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > USE=oldnet is documented, end of story.  you're complaining about a
> > *bug*, not lack of documentation.  stop mixing the two as you're only
> > muddling this thread.
>
> I don't think you are going to find anyone here stating that the USE
> flag itself is not documented.  The heart of the matter is that, not
> only do we testers find the sweeping API changes poorly documented
> (preventing properly testing them and starting this thread), but there
> are many regressions, several of which are non-starters.
>
> Seemingly simple things like configuring static routes, setting MTUs,
> and bringing up interfaces after configuring them have fallen by the
> wayside for no apparent reason, and with zero documentation.  Even PPP
> interface support has been dropped with little explanation other than
> "get that old script from mrness and hope it works".
>
> As far as I can tell, the new openrc network API has (and has only been
> tested with) one extremely simple paradigm in mind: DHCP or statically
> configured hosts on a flat, autoconfigured ethernet VLAN with only one
> off-subnet route.  That is a huge step backward.

everything *you're* talking about is USE=-oldnet.  no one is debating that the 
new code is regression free or overflowing with documentation.  that's why 
it's disabled by default (imagine that) and issues warnings during emerge.  
the mailing list is not the place to report regressions, but fortunately 
people have reported such issues in bugzilla already.

Branko is complaining about bugs in USE=oldnet about which there are no bugs 
in bugzilla.  vague complaints in a mailing list isnt going to get anything 
resolved, but it seems he doesnt care anymore.  so we'll have to wait until 
someone else hits the issue and actually reports a bug for us to investigate.
-mike