Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: News item: World file handling changes in Portage-2.2

[Dale]

Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:56 +0100, Mike Auty wrote:
>
>
>> Marius Mauch wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe the best solution is to drop the non-prefixed versions of 'world'
>>> and 'system' completely ....
>>>
>> Deprecating the old syntax sounds like a sensible action to get people
>> shifted onto the new system.  I imagine it would work very similarly to
>> "emerge info" at the moment?
>>
>
> Speaking purely as a user, from a usability perspective it's a horrible
> idea. Don't make me remember special things. To me there is no discernible
> difference between "system" and "@system", except that I have to remember
> to prefix the latter over and over again. Different things need different
> names. Doesn't portage have more pressing problems? In the last 6 years of
> using Gentoo I cannot remember a single instance where the difference
> between system and world even mattered to me from an operational point of
> view.
>
> Holger
>
>

Also speaking as a user, I confuse pretty easily and you can ask anyone 
on gentoo-user about that.  However, I see the difference between 
@system and system.  The same for world or at least a good idea anyway.

I have to also say that I like being able to type in emerge -uvDN world 
and letting my system upgrade everything that needs upgrading.  It's 
simple, easy and not so much typing.  I can somewhat understand the need 
for @system and @world but think both can live together pretty well.  I 
also can't think of a better name to call it either. 

I do think there should be some sort of notice for those users that do 
not follow -dev, -user and/or the forums tho.  That has been a issue for 
a long time.  There does not seem to be a clear cut way to inform all 
Gentoo users except during a emerge.  Thing is, emerge -uvDN world will 
do the same as it always has from my understanding.

My $0.02 worth.

Dale

:-)  :-)