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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@...>
Subject: Re: flamewars@gentoo-dev
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:55:54 +0100
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:42:51 +0100
Mike Auty <ikelos@g.o> wrote:
> And yet still you keep fighting? Why?

Because unlike pretty much everyone else around here, I haven't given
up on Gentoo. I still think it can have a future.

> What do you *need* from Gentoo that you can't get for yourself?

I don't need Gentoo. I do, however, think it would be a shame for all
the work I've put into it over the years to go to waste.

> There's a neat little project called Exherbo you might have heard of.
> It's trying to build up most of those things, and they don't put up
> with incompetent, unknowledgeable people, so I'm sure they'll let you
> in, and I'm sure you'll be happy there.

*yawn*

http://ciaranm.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/paludis-gentoo-and-exherbo/

> I'm quite happy to continue working in a friendly helpful environment,
> where simple questions are most often met with patient answers and
> people are given the chance to learn, improve and help out where they
> can.  I'm happy to keep quietly maintaining my ebuilds and let the
> people whose packages I package come up with the new stuff.  You don't
> seem to be, so perhaps this isn't the right place for you to
> contribute? ~ If you do want to contribute, perhaps you could
> consider the environment you're working in, and be more accommodating
> to it rather than fighting against it?

The environment is a large part of Gentoo's problem. The focus needs
to be taken away from the 'community' (where community means a bunch of
Ubuntu users who make lots of noise on the forums) and put back into
delivering a decent distribution.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
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