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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook?
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:00:31
Message-Id: 4E34A8F3.5080406@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Warn users not to do separate /usr partition without proper initramfs in the handbook? by William Hubbs
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4 On 30-07-2011 22:17, William Hubbs wrote:
5 > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 10:27:27AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
6 >> Since running separate /usr without mounting it from initramfs on
7 >> top of / before init is and has been broken with udev for a long
8 >> time now[1][2][3]
9 >>
10 >> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364235 [2]
11 >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove#Move_all_to_.2Fusr
12 >> [3]
13 >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken
14 >>
15 >>
16 >>
17 Can we warn users about not doing the separate /usr mistake in the handbook?
18 >
19 > There are actually two options for us according to upstream. One is
20 > the one you are talking about -- mounting /usr from an initramfs
21 > before / is mounted. The other is to mount local file systems, if
22 > setups are simple enough, before we start udev. I could set this one
23 > up easily enough just by moving localmount to the boot runlevel.
24 >
25 > Can we discuss both options?
26
27 If there's any option that allows the use of a separate /usr partition
28 without an initramfs, then let's explore it. I don't feel like having to
29 use an initramfs just because I want a small / without /usr on it.
30 As others have said, having /usr as a separate partition worked for
31 years until some people started trying to "shove" bloat on everyone's
32 systems and then they want us to believe that having /usr as a separate
33 partition is stupid.
34
35 > William
36
37 - --
38 Regards,
39
40 Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
41 Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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