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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
Subject: Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:39:14 -0600
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:19:39PM -0500, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 13:02 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:50:25PM -0500, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > > I don't see what breakage would be caused by a big-bang update (move
> > > everything in /sbin,/bin/,usr/sbin to usr/bin and add symlinks. I really
> > > doubt any system has a /usr so tight that adding the couple things that
> > > are in / to /usr/bin would break it.. Btw, this also includes /lib*
> > > to /usr/lib*.
> > 
> > I think the best way to do this part of it is going to be to just follow
> > the upstream packages. When they release a new version that installs in
> > /usr, just allow that to happen. Eventually there will be very little in
> > /{bin,sbin,lib}, maybe nothing  besides a couple of symbolic links like
> > /bin/sh.
> > 
> > I am not for what fedora is doing with the
> > /bin->/usr/bin, /sbin->/usr/sbin and /lib->/usr/lib symlinks.
> 
> At least the upstreams that work for RedHat and Suse (and that's almost
> all system packages) will come to expect that these symlinks exist. For
> example, I just heard that kmod will expect kernel modules
> in /usr/lib/modules even though the kernel installs them
> in /lib/modules.. So yes, upstream will force these symlinks on us too.

I just looked at the commit in kmod for this. It can be worked around
with a ./configure switch until the kernel switches their install
location, so they aren't forcing this one.

William
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Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Olivier Crête
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Ciaran McCreesh
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Olivier Crête
Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
-- Eray Aslan
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