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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:41:13 +0200, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> |
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> On Sunday 13 September 2009 21:03:13 Jesús Guerrero wrote: |
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>> On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> |
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>> wrote: |
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>> > First issue: How do I find out in which overlay stuff is? |
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>> http://gentoo.zapto.org/ |
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> That's not an official project, not mentioned in the layman docs afaik |
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> (feel |
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> free to prove me wrong :) ) and only list the overlays in the layman |
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> config. |
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> It's just one step above "fetch from the bugzilla bug" ;) |
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> (Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, but it's still very user-unfriendly ...) |
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I don't know what your point there is. Layman is not official either as |
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far as I know, and the overlays are unsupported by Gentoo directly. |
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>> > Second issue: "I want foopackage and barpackage, but not your hacked |
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>> > gcc" |
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>> > Overlays can overshadow tree packages, which can have undesired |
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>> > effects. |
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>> Smart overlays shouldn't do that (and if you are using ~arch then it's |
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>> *your* problem). |
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> How would you avoid it? If I had an overlay I'd dump everything in it |
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that |
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> looks remotely interesting to me, and I don't care what you think should |
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> be in |
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> my overlay ;) |
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How? ~arch keywords? And, if you are in ~arch, then you are smart enough |
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to live with this as well. |
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>> Yep. All comes down to the same, lack of man power I think. |
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> Always. And if you ever think you're done some users file some new bugs |
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:) |
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> So if you feel unhappy about things go fix them. You have the power! |
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> (And any excuse that you are not talented enough or whatever ... look, |
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> they |
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> let me commit to the tree too!) |
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> Plus there's all the other fronts in the battle for the best linux |
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distro. |
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> Bugwrangling, documentation maintenance, security issues, ... there are |
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> enough |
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> possibilities even for those that can't or don't want to work on ebuilds |
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> directly. Just start working on stuff, ask when you need help and it'll |
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> even better soon. |
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> See? It's easy. And you have no excuse not to help. Now just do stuff! |
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:) |
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No. It's not me who's unhappy about the current status of things ;) |
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I already do my work in other areas and I have no more time than I |
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devote to Gentoo already. I maintain overlays to a minimum, and when |
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I need an overlay I just pick it and put it into my personal overlay. |
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Yes, every forum staffer could very well become a developer and spend |
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their time doing some ebuilding, but then we would have a crappy forum |
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full of spam (believe me, it takes time to keep it clean) :) |
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Jesús Guerrero |
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