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From: Jeroen Roovers <jer@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 48 update (as nominated for next meeting)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:21:27
Message-Id: 20110129062035.39113007@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 48 update (as nominated for next meeting) by Roy Bamford
1 On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:05:48 +0000
2 Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > Its not QAs decision, if the breakage was intentional or not. A
5 > single body, in this case, QA, cannot be both the police and the
6 > judicary.
7 >
8 > QA can and should be capable of finding wrongs, preventing further
9 > damage and causing the problem to get fixed. Thats damage limitaion.
10 > If preventing further damage involves revoking commit rights pending
11 > full investigation, thats fine by me.
12
13 > Determining the root cause, and determining long term prevention
14 > takes some investigation. QA may present evidence but its Devrels job
15 > to weigh the evidence and pass sentence.
16
17 Thank you for that. What in the recent past has perspired is that QA
18 has its place, after the fact, and that whoever feels to be in place to
19 deal out QA (and I think this has gone wrong a few times recently) is
20 required to:
21
22 1) state and/or explain policy specifically where it is being not
23 adhered to;
24 2) offer alternatives where policy is not adhered to.
25
26 There should be no way that someone in the QA team could be above
27 any /other/ developer. Anyone who is a developer is one, and anyone in
28 the QA team still has the same hierarchical place. If there are QA
29 issues, then logical and technical arguing should suffice - not some
30 perceived hierarchy derived from being in some team. Thank you.
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33 jer

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