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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:02:02
Message-Id: 20120312190005.32643536@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash by Ulrich Mueller
1 On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:50:36 +0100
2 Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o> wrote:
3 > >>>>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
4 > > GLEP 55 is simple, it solves all the problems we have (including the
5 > > version issue, which everyone is conveniently ignoring), it doesn't
6 > > require us to guess what's going to happen next and it can be
7 > > implemented immediately. That's a rather big deal.
8 >
9 > The "header comment" solution solves all these issues too, without
10 > embedding unrelated information in the filename [1].
11
12 No it doesn't. See the "conveniently ignoring" part you're conveniently
13 ignoring.
14
15 > It can be implemented immediately, too.
16
17 No it can't, since existing package managers don't handle it.
18
19 > The argument that was always used against such solutions was that
20 > it would "hurt performance". However, when the council asked for
21 > benchmarks that would prove that point, nobody could provide them.
22
23 No, the argument was that such solutions didn't solve the full problem.
24 Performance issues were secondary, and were picked up upon as a way of
25 avoiding the whole "nothing else solves all the problems" thing.
26
27 > [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename> "The filename is metadata
28 > about a file; a string used to uniquely identify a file stored on the
29 > file system."
30
31 By that argument, there's no point in having a ".ebuild" there either.
32 Please don't continue the bad trend of posting irrelevant Wikipedia
33 links as footnotes as though the primary issue should be anything other
34 than a comparison of solutions to a technical problem [1].
35
36 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork
37
38 --
39 Ciaran McCreesh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>