Matti Bickel wrote:
> Tobias Scherbaum <dertobi123@g.o> wrote:
> > What if this would break deps or it's a very common package for example
> > belonging to the set of system packages?
> 
> Then the maintainer moans and does nothing. I guess that's where the
> "MAY" part from above comes in. Policy should not be an excuse to stop
> thinking. And if i break a user system when i drop my stable keywords,
> IMHO i'm violating the 'work as pleasently and efficiently as possible'
> bit of our philosophy.

That would people require to use common sense. The past has shown that
people tend to have different views of what common sense might be in a
given case. Therefore policy in that aspect needs to be as clear and
understandable as possible to avoid unnecessary discussions.

> So bottom-line: i'm very much in favour of your solution to question #1.
> And i'd like to stress the "automatic" bit. Yes, we can get access to
> tinderboxes. But last i looked, this involved tracking down the person
> responsible for it, asking for access and doing everything you need to
> get your package to compile. Well, i'm lazy, so i didn't do it.
> 
> Automatic tinderbox testing would very much help in the process. Maybe
> someone can write a script so that once a maintainer opens/gives his OK
> to a stable bug, automatic testing could be started and the results
> posted back to the bug?

Sounds like a very good and doable idea to me. Process might be as easy
as CC'ing a arch-tinderbox on a bug, a script does parse the bug number
out of the mail being sent out and using gatt it catches the ebuild to
test, compiles it and reports back a) failure/success, b) error log as
attachment if it fails plus c) if there was a test-phase.

Might be just a quick hack using pybugz and gatt :)

> After the timeframe (30 days? 60? I don't know, and it's not important
> at this point) maintainers could move to stable their package themself
> IF the automatic tests indicate success AND no arch member has spoken
> up.

Agreed.

  Tobias
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