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From: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:50:13 -0400
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> < trelane> ciaranm: I want Paludis to fail. It's unhealthy (or at least
> the loudest and most visible of it's devs are) for Gentoo.
>
> < trelane> lets be VERY clear on that point. So long as Paludis, and
> the culture it creates are unhealthy for Gentoo I want it to fail.
>
> < trelane> ciaranm: that's put in a manner that seems to be a somewhat
> knee-jerk reaction. It should be clear that opposing you and everything
> you do was an initiative I started only after careful consideration.
>
>   

Ciaran, you are killing Gentoo.  You wrote a demonstrably error prone
GLEP 39, then tried to exploit it to ram through GLEP 55, and you got
caught. You've created a huge amount of red tape, needless bickering
argument, and have utterly hamstrung every council ever convened. 
Ciaran, you will not be doing this again.

So there is now a moral question, do I have the right to oppose Ciaran,
Paludis, and everything he does?  Certainly I do, especially since he
has created many, myriad, and manifest arguments in the community
(amazingly we're having one now, and I was drug into it).  Do I have the
right to voice this opinion?  Certainly I do.  Is the opinion correct? 
In my eyes yes.

Note though the second sentence, as it is incredibly important.  Ciaran
insists on continuing to create red tape for Gentoo, it has created a
recent and MAJOR incident in a council meeting which has created bent
feelings, and totally hijacked the initiative of the council.  Until
this behavior stops I will oppose it publicly and loudly.

I would also point you to the recent council vote, wherein dev-zero was
ousted (see the major incident) and peper, who I think is a nice, sane
guy in my dealings ended up dead last.  This is of course because of his
relationship with you Ciaran.

Ciaran, you are perhaps the least politically capable person I've ever
met.  It is not possible for you to holdiin your head at the same time
two divergent ideas.  Your idea of pluralism is that everyone does
things your way.  Then when that doesn't happen you throw a temper
tantrum.  You sir, are killing Gentoo for these and many other reasons,
and I demand that you stop, I will also unilaterally oppose you until
you do.

Andrew D Kirch
Funtoo.org


PS: Ciaran, Thank you for comparing me to Rush Limbaugh, I consider it a
compliment.


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