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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 01:28:54
Message-Id: pan.2012.05.11.01.27.43@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] by David Leverton
1 David Leverton posted on Thu, 10 May 2012 19:57:30 +0100 as excerpted:
2
3 > Greg KH wrote:
4 >> No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to.
5 >> There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to
6 >> switch to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no
7 >> one is stopping you.
8 >
9 > Or alternatively, the people who hate Unix could move to some other OS
10 > that suites them better, rather than trying to destroy what everyone
11 > else is perfectly happy with.
12
13 I see the "hate Unix" angle tho I'd call it a bit strong...
14
15 But trying to destroy what everyone else is perfectly happy with??
16
17 How is simply writing some software, which after all is FLOSS and which
18 nobody is forced to use, "destroying"? They're taking their own software
19 where their vision points it, no more, no less. I don't really agree
20 with where it's going either, but that's part of the very freedom of the
21 FLOSS community we're all a part of. Others can fork the software or
22 provide less integrated substitutes, if desired. Meanwhile, if it's what
23 other coders choose to build on, well, they're free to do that too. It
24 doesn't mean I have to use their software!
25
26 FWIW, that's one reason I'm no longer using kmail, for instance. When
27 kmail akonadified, I tried it, then switched to claws-mail. It's ALSO one
28 reason I'm using gentoo, I get to choose whether I build kde with akonadi
29 and semantic-desktop support, or not. And I choose not. I see the kdepim
30 folks vision, and they're free to pursue it, but their path and my path
31 simply diverged, that's all. Kde runs SO much nicer without the weight
32 of semantic-desktop dragging it down.
33
34 And if the systemd and udev path fully merge, I'll have a choice at that
35 point. If systemd looks mature and stable enough at that point to be
36 used on my system, I'll probably try it. I might like it. =:^) Or, like
37 akonadified kmail, I may find it a rube goldberg of a system that I'd
38 rather stay away from. Given history, I'm sure there will be alternate
39 solutions available, tho it'll no doubt take some serious work and
40 adaptation on my part to switch.
41
42 --
43 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
44 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
45 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman