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From: Jochen Maes <gentoo-dev@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Delay in approval of new developers
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:14:24 +0200
Peter wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:15:14 +0200, Jochen Maes wrote:
>
> snip...
>
>   
>>> glad you were an exception.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> glad i never knew you when i was a gentoo dev... I know one thing, you
>> won't ever get a hump out of me!
>>     
>
> You're arguing a different point. I was commenting on the time delay, and
> you responded with how difficult it is to be a recruiter. If the delay is
> long then there is a problem. If you run a business and you want to hire
> someone, yet you wait and wait and wait, it's quite possible the recruit
> may accept another position. That's a loss to you. Same with potential
> gentoo developers. When someone goes through the trouble to complete
> tests, work with his/her mentor, spend time on bz, etc., the least they
> can expect is courteous response when they choose to become a dev.
> Perusing through recruitment bugs, you can see long lapses. It IS
> inexcusable.
>
> Yes, everyone does gentoo voluntarily, but that does not mean less should
> be expected. It reminds me of the time my 5 year old cousin sadly was in
> the hospital, and the nurse needed to take yet another blood sample. The
> nurse said "I'm sorry I have to take blood again. I don't like to hurt
> little boys." To which my very sharp cousin replied, "So, why are you in
> this business?"
>
> If a gentoo dev joins a particular project to perform a particular task,
> he/she IS making a commitment to it. The dev should have known in advance
> what's expected and the time required. AFAIK recruiters are hardly
> overworked. There is no overfull pipeline of dev recruits banging on the
> doors.
>
> Simple courtesy requires they handle recruiting bugs quickly and
> efficiently with either a Welcome or a thumbs down. Dragging the
> recruitment out only makes it harder to get new recruits. They are, in
> effect, working against themselves and their own goal.
>
>   
>> glad i never knew you when i was a gentoo dev
>>     
>
> I have been recruited 3 times to be a dev, and declined. I find the gentoo
> hierarchy and organization stifling and the amount of roadblocks to
> progress ridiculous.
>
> I appreciate your POV. Yes, you can't expect too much from volunteers.
> But, in a worldwide linux distribution, which is run more or less like a
> business, there is a higher standard that should be adhered to. I don't
> accept slackers or inefficiency in my business, and nor should gentoo.
>
> Why are you no longer a gentoo-dev, btw?
>
>   
because i was sick of people discussing things that they knew shite
about and cluttering up the mailinglists.
you _can't_ compare gentoo with a business. simple as that
arf, why did i even start...

/me closes dev mailbox for another month
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