Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular project metadata check

[Thilo Bangert]

Joshua Saddler <nightmorph@g.o> said:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:20:36 +0100
>
> Thilo Bangert <bangert@g.o> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > similarly to the metadata.xml check, the following is a list of small
> > problems related to the project metadata as found in the gentoo CVS
> > repository.
> >
> > Documentation: Only 1 developers signed up for project!
>
> Only one GDP member, eh? Your script is rather unreliable. Take, for
>  example, our GDP page:
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/index.xml
>

hhm, crazy.

> It lists all our developers, as does:
>
> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/doc/en/metadoc.x
> ml?view=markup
>
> Yet your script only seems to be looking at devrel's
>  roll-call/userinfo.xml file,

no - the script crossreferences userinfo.xml with the projects index.xml.
removing the comments between the devs makes the script work correctly for 
the gdp page... which leaves me a little mystified.
in any case: thanks for the pointer


>  which is autogenerated from the LDAP
>  attributes each developer has. The problem with checking LDAP for
>  roles is that there doesn't seem to be a standard way to label
>  projects. For docs, you'll find the following roles:
>
> French Documentation Lead
> Documentation
> Documentation, Developer Relations, Infrastructure
> ---> this one doesn't seem to be counted as Documentation, since it
>  lists other roles. Documentation, Czech Translation
> Translator Follow-Up
> . . . etc.
>
> There are LOTS more different references to working with documentation
>  or translation, some of them not even for the GDP. Normally
>  "Documentation" refers to the GDP, but I see some devs in there who
>  are not on the GDP team who list Documentation as a primary role. No
>  standardization there whatsoever.
>
> Another problem with checking LDAP attributes is that they tend to be
>  very out-of-date, even more so than project pages. People get their
>  LDAP stuff set ONCE, when they first join, then tend to forget about
>  them for the rest of their stay in Gentoo. Examples: all the Xfce (or
>  XFCE) guys who are no longer there, or anyone who's added six
>  different teams and package herds since their original
>  responsibilities.
>
> I wish there was a standard way of labelling existing duties, and I
>  wish there was an easier way to update the LDAP attributes. I think no
>  one cares enough to login to dev.g.o to change their stuff, as the
>  process is tedious.
>

ideally we would populate LDAP from the projects index.xml files.

> You may want to point your script at all our (sub)project index pages
>  and check for the <dev role> tag to see who does what, though that may
>  generate some false hits because not all of 'em will actually be
>  Gentoo developers, as in the case of arch testers.
>

this is what i intended to do. i'll report back the results once this has 
turned into something a little more reliable.

kind regards
Thilo