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Pacho Ramos posted on Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:05:34 +0200 as excerpted: |
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> El mié, 08-09-2010 a las 01:44 +0400, dev-random@××××.ru escribió: |
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>> On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:30:34PM +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote: |
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>> > This implies that the upstream is alive enough to fix it. |
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>> > I feel it should mean that the bug has been reported to upstream, and |
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>> > that state is documented in the bug. |
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>> > If we keep every upstream bug open instead of closed, we'd have |
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>> > probably another 2500 open bugs (5312 RESO/UPSTREAM in the history of |
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>> > Gentoo, and I'm ballparking that 50% aren't actually fixed yet |
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>> > upstream). |
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>> Bug may be a blocker. And marking it as RESOLVED/UPSTREAM you may |
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>> unblock another bug (e.g. stabilization request) which should be still |
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>> blocked because there is no fixed package in tree. |
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> In most cases when it's really a blocker, bug will remain opened anyway |
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> until solved or, if not possible, stabilization will be postponed. |
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Additionally, RESOLVED/UPSTREAM indicates that the Gentoo package |
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maintainer (or other dev who marked it such) believes Gentoo is not the |
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appropriate place for a patch fixing the problem. |
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As such, the bug will never be fixed at the Gentoo level, only upstream, |
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and if there's a blocker on it, the blocker would never get resolved |
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either, until upstream fixes it. Where upstream isn't active or doesn't |
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believe the fix appropriate either, that'd lead to stalemate and forever |
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blocking the dependent Gentoo bug. That's not appropriate either. |
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So RESOLVED/UPSTREAM *should* unblock blockers, even where upstream |
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doesn't resolve, or we've simply created a deadlock that's not going to be |
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resolved. If it's truly a blocker, the problem will need worked around |
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some other way. But often, "blockers" really aren't blockers, when |
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upstream chooses not to take the package in that direction after all. It |
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simply means some other alternative, perhaps an alternative package, must |
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be developed instead, and the package as it is can continue to evolve in |
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the normal way. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |