On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:11 +0100, Peter Weller wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:36 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> > Le dimanche 20 avril 2008 à 20:25 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
> > > On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@g.o> wrote:
> > > > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing
> > > > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional
> > > > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like
> > > > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not cast
> > > > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in
> > > > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D).
> > >
> > > Lazy is the word.
> > > I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome
> > > herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve
> > > conflict).
> > > The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd
> > > use yet another confusing USE flag.
> > > This is not the right way to maintain long term constants.
> >
> > failure, you tried to argue ;)
> >
> > > You asked for objections... You got some.
> > >
> > > You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term.
> > > Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name.
> > > You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users.
> >
> > Seriously though, when I find stuff to fix, I try to fix it. I just
> > don't see anything to fix right now.
>
> There are currently three options in my mind: to rename the USE flag as
> 'gnome-keyring', to just globalize the 'keyring' USE flag as is, or to
> remove the USE flag completely. Each have a number of downs and ups:
>
> Renaming
> 1) We have to change 9 ebuilds to reflect the change
> 2) Almost all Gnome users will be affected in one way or another
> 3) Technically correct
> 4) Reduces chances of future collisions
> 5) More work for developers
>
> Keeping it as is
> 1) Less headache for Gnome users in the short term (but possibly
> more if we rename it in the future
> 2) Less work for me/Gnome herd
> 3) Technically incorrect
> 4) Could result in conflicts in the future
>
> Removing
> 1) Nice and simple. Just force all packages to compile with
> --gnome-keyring
> 2) A large number of users will probably start complaining about
> all their packages being compiled with gnome-keyring support
> 3) Xfce people will hate hate hate, I will be crucified.
>
> After consideration of the above, and consultation with the Gnome herd,
> I think that the best option would be to rename the USE flag to
> gnome-keyring.
>
> If anyone has any objections to *that*, pipe up before tomorrow evening.
All done. If anyone spots any missed packages/problems, feel free to fix
or poke me to fix it.
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