Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

[Dale]

Richard Freeman wrote:
> On 08/14/2010 02:35 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> User perspective here...
>>
>> For LDFLAGS, given the new --as-needed default, I'd prefer the rev-bump.
>> Yes, it requires a rebuild, but the rebuilds will occur as the bugs are
>> fixed so it's a few at a time for people who keep reasonably updated
>> (every month or more frequently).  The alternative is triggering a
>> several-
>> hundred-package rebuild when some base library package updates, because
>> all those LDFLAGS respecting changes weren't rev-bumped and the user's
>> installed set is still ignoring them, and thus --as-needed.
>
> Interesting - I was looking at it in the opposite way.
>
> Not having as-needed means that I /might/ have to rebuild that one
> package unnecessarily at some point in the future - if it isn't
> upgraded first for some other reason.
>
> Rev-bumping the build means that I /will/ have to rebuild that one
> package for certain - right now.
>
> I think we can all at least agree that this is a gray area as far as
> the INTENT of the (apparently unwritten) policy goes.
>
> I would like to echo Markos's comment that having policies written
> down, if only to point stubborn maintainers to them, would be
> helpful.  The other reason to have them written is so that they go
> through some kind of review, and there is some way of challenging them
> if they no longer make sense.
>
> In any case, I think we're making a pretty big deal about a pretty
> small issue - we can probably all afford to think about this a little
> more and move on...
>
> Rich
>
>


I'm with Duncan as well.  I update pretty regular, usually daily, just 
because I want to update a few packages at a time.  If I do a truly HUGE 
update, what is it that broke what?   If I do 3 to 10 packages and 
something breaks, I can go look at those 3 to 10 packages for either a 
version mismatch or just a plain old broken package.  If I have to 
update everything at once, where does one even start to look?   I have 
almost a thousand packages here and I would hate to have to go look for 
a needle in a haystack.  That's a large haystack to go looking in.

I might also mention that I see rebuilds from time to time where it 
looks like nothing has changed.  I always let them rebuild anyway 
because I know there is something different under the hood that I don't 
see.  Open Office is one that I dread tho.  lol  Even tho it would mean 
a gradual system rebuild, I'd say that I'm for it.  As they get changed, 
bump them up a notch and let them get rebuilt.

Back to my hole now.

Dale

:-)  :-)