Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

[Ferris McCormick]

On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 14:46 +0200, Ben de Groot wrote:
> Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> > I think it would be in the best interest of both Exherbo and Gentoo to elect
> > [...] to the Gentoo Council.
>
> I would think the only thing that matters is the best interest of
> Gentoo. This is after all the _Gentoo_ Council we're speaking of, not a
> body that is concerned with non-Gentoo matters.
>
> > All of them [...] would be ideal candidates to
> > get the best of both distros and deepen a cooperation and common understanding
> > between both.
>
> In my opinion it is in the best interest of Gentoo at this point to
> ignore Exherbo and to silence those people involved with Exherbo that
> have been so divisive and generated so much conflict in Gentoo channels.

I think this works only if Gentoo can exist in a vacuum.  And in my
opinion it can't.  An exchange of ideas among projects is good, and for
Gentoo I suppose the council is the official driver.  To me, that
implies that council ignore other projects like Exherbo only to the
detriment of Gentoo.

(I believe we already have dual developers for Gentoo/Exherbo, but I
haven't bothered to verify.)
>
> > This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev-
> > zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's council meeting.
>
> To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted
> from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes
> disqualify the involved council member from functioning in that position.
>
> > While the other candidates certainly have great merits, they tend to only see
> > one side and concentrate too much on Gentoo alone.
>
> I would hope so. The people we elect to the council should concentrate
> on Gentoo, otherwise they'd have a conflict of interest.

Conflict of interest?  How so.  And like it or not, as best as I can
tell GLEP39 is the ruling document for council, and it does not require
council members or proxies to be gentoo developers.  It might be
reasonable to require they be members of a gentoo project, but as
someone (Denis?) explained to me, Gentoo project members need not be
developers.  Anyone with something useful to contribute should be able
to, but only developers should have commit access (actually, the
trustees can request limited commit access to any Foundation trustee or
officer, I believe).
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
Flames not required,
Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)