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On 05/10/12 06:36, Greg KH wrote: |
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> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: |
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>> I foresee a new udev fork then. |
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> Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day I |
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> created it. |
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> Remember, forks are good, there's nothing wrong with them, I strongly |
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> encourage people to do them if they wish to, it benefits everyone |
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> involved. |
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Forks are often unnecessary. |
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Now instead of working on something useful I get to spend my time |
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reverting to previous behaviour, just so I can have a working solution |
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instead of a shiny one. |
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Are we really doing so well that we can just rewrite everything instead |
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of maybe, for once, have things boring predictable and bugfree? I mean |
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... things were going so well. Machines Just Booted Every TIme. |
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And now - UEFI is glitching all over the place, the GPT-aware |
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bootloaders have config files with insane complexity and are exquisitely |
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buggy, and someone thought making the init system exciting would just |
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make life oh so much better. Result: I can't get more than a blinking |
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cursor out of some machines without resorting to Dirty Hacks I would |
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really prefer not to even consider. |
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Seriously. I don't have time for these games. Stop breaking stuff! |
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>> If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable. |
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> That's an odd transition... |
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Same people involved, same mentality - and we don't want to be standing |
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on the sides saying "Told you so" again. Gets boring. |
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>> With "avahi is ..." I actually mean, one single tarball blob depending |
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>> on the whole world and its solar system and galaxy. |
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> Hyperbole, how nice :( |
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>> Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enough, thanks. |
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> The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for. You |
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> should be ashamed of yourself. |
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It's reactive. I've been called stupid, conservative, behind the times, |
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user of obsolete software that will go the way of the dinosaurs. Why |
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should we be ashamed of not agreeing with these funny pranksters? |
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> Seriously, that's unacceptable behavior from anyone. |
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Then make it stop? :) |
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> No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. |
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Yeah, I can just stop updating. Sounds like a solution to all problems ;) |
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> There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch |
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> to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is |
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> stopping you. But for you to disparage someone who has given immense |
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> bodies of work to the community, and you, for free, is horrible behavior |
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> and needs to stop right now. |
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Goes both ways. We're here because of Freedom, in various flavours. |
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Freedom to copy things around and use for free. Freedom to swap out one |
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part and use another. |
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Freedom to break things badly. |
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So why would I give up my freedom to tinker just because someone else is |
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writing more code than I do? |
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And I still have the freedom to complain all day long about undesigned |
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stuff people try to force on me. |
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Hey, you even have the freedom to complain about my complaining. |
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Either way, I hope I can continue using Free Linux for a while and not |
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be forced to use random things that are silly. I'd have expected you to |
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support that. |
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Take care, |
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Patrick |
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