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From: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Subject: Re: new `usex` helper
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:27:33 -0700
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:14 -0500
> Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o> wrote:
>
>> > Realistically I assume you're taking the stance "EAPI gets in the
>> > way, lets do away with it"- if so, well, out with it, and I'll
>> > dredge up the old logs/complaints that lead to EAPI.
>>
>> I see EAPI as a nice thing for standardizing features that are
>> implemented in the PM so they work identically across portage,
>> pkgcore, and paludis. But I don't think that implementing things in
>> the PM when they could go in an eclass is automatically the best
>> choice. It dramatically slows down the speed of iteration,
>> prototyping, and bug fixing.
>
> What is more important is that it takes the code further from devs.
> I like to see the code I use, and be able to do anything about it if
> necessary. Not to see a spec and three different implementation, of
> which two use random hacks which I can't do anything about unless I
> start to implement PM-specific anti-hacks in my code.

Just as an aside, every package mangler in Gentoo is open source. I
don't see why you can't 'see' the code it is using. Now you might say
'ahhh C++ makes my eyes bleed' (as an aside, go read versionator
eclass ;p) or 'eww portage is ugly' but every time I hear it I am less
convinced that it is a good excuse.

>
> --
> Best regards,
> Michał Górny
>


References:
new `usex` helper
-- Mike Frysinger
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Donnie Berkholz
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Donnie Berkholz
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Brian Harring
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Donnie Berkholz
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Brian Harring
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Donnie Berkholz
Re: new `usex` helper
-- Michał Górny
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