| 1 |
On 06/29/2011 05:08 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: |
| 2 |
> On 06/29/11 03:07, Olivier Crête wrote: |
| 3 |
>> Hi, |
| 4 |
>> |
| 5 |
>> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 17:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: |
| 6 |
>>> The background is that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is a link to |
| 7 |
>>> /lib/rc/functions.sh, which is part of openrc. |
| 8 |
>>> |
| 9 |
>>> Other init systems, like systemd, are coming along which completely |
| 10 |
>>> replace sysvinit and do not use openrc's init scripts at all. However, |
| 11 |
>>> since things other than init scripts are using /etc/init.d/functions.sh, |
| 12 |
>>> all gentoo users are forced to have openrc on their systems whether they |
| 13 |
>>> use its init scripts or not. |
| 14 |
>>> |
| 15 |
>>> As you can see in the bug, I am working on creating a |
| 16 |
>>> minimalist version of openrc that can be installed to allow users to |
| 17 |
>>> have access to the functions that are in functions.sh regardless of |
| 18 |
>>> whether or not they are using openrc's init system. |
| 19 |
>>> |
| 20 |
>>> I'm not convinced that this is the best approach, so any input would be |
| 21 |
>>> greatly appreciated. |
| 22 |
>> As long as we have Gentoo-style init scripts in the tree, we will need |
| 23 |
>> these functions to be available. So yes, they should probably be in a |
| 24 |
>> separate package from openrc itself to ease the transition to the bright |
| 25 |
>> systemd future. |
| 26 |
>> |
| 27 |
> We tolerate the systemd madness as long as it doesn't interfere with |
| 28 |
> other things. |
| 29 |
> |
| 30 |
> But as OpenRC has some rare features ("being able to start and stop |
| 31 |
> stuff" and "being reasonably fast" among them) and there's no |
| 32 |
> replacement at the moment I see no reason to add a convoluted mess of |
| 33 |
> insanity just to feel good. |
| 34 |
> |
| 35 |
Hi Patrick, |
| 36 |
|
| 37 |
I started the madness :) But it wasn't because I didn't prefer openrc |
| 38 |
over all other init systems, but because I wanted to create minimal |
| 39 |
chroot environments without any init system whatsoever. In addition to |
| 40 |
opening up the choice for our users, this also avoids ugly DEPENDs in |
| 41 |
our ebuilds, like eix or gentoolkit which, strictly speaking, should |
| 42 |
depend on openrc to provide functions.sh and don't currently. |
| 43 |
|
| 44 |
-- |
| 45 |
Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. |
| 46 |
Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] |
| 47 |
E-Mail : blueness@g.o |
| 48 |
GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535 |
| 49 |
GnuPG ID : D0455535 |
Archives