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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:56:40
Message-Id: 4EC1643D.40109@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default by Dale
1 On 11/14/2011 10:34 AM, Dale wrote:
2 > Zac Medico wrote:
3 >> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
4 >>> As I type:
5 >>>
6 >>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
7 >>>
8 >>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
9 >>> work like they have always worked. I say that as a user.
10 >> As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to
11 >> factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not
12 >> express it publicly. A forumor mailing list thread tends to attract a
13 >> "vocal minority", which tends to bias the discussion (or voting results)
14 >> in way that does not give a fair statistical representation of the
15 >> gentoo population as a whole (it excludes the "silent majority"). It's
16 >> part of human nature that those who are displeased with the changed more
17 >> likely to speak up than those who welcome the change.
18 >>
19 >> [1]
20 >> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6871718.html?sid=960ebd269384029c21e708d8dfa745ef#6871718
21 >>
22 >
23 > The same could be said if the poll was going the other way as well.
24
25 Well the part about human nature has some tricky implications. It means
26 that the "vocal minority" is likely to contain a larger percentage of
27 unhappy people than percentage that exists in the whole population.
28
29 > If
30 > the results are not going to be used or just going to be explained away,
31 > then why have the poll to begin with?
32
33 Why do we go on living when we know that we will eventually die and that
34 there will be no trace left of our existence? Life is a journey, and we
35 are required to surrender all of our souvenirs in the end.
36 --
37 Thanks,
38 Zac

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