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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:34:32
Message-Id: CAGfcS_m=-mS7EKOAEEx8if0n46ZDVE6116qHk30j-eiAFPC3DA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor? by "Paweł Hajdan
1 On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2 <phajdan.jr@g.o> wrote:
3 > On 1/27/12 8:45 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
4 >> Just implement it in a way that people can opt-in/opt-out on it.
5 >
6 > We already have an opt-in (hardened profile), and of course it can be
7 > implemented in a way which allows opt-out (I even mentioned that).
8 >
9 > The main point is changing the default.
10
11 Well, probably wouldn't hurt to split this out of hardened into
12 something intermediate first. You won't get much testing in hardened
13 on many packages.
14
15 I agree that changing the default is the long-term solution. Default
16 off to start but have it available on mainstream profiles. Encourage
17 people to use it. Then make it the default but let people opt-out.
18 Then maybe in the long-term future de-support the opt-out if it seems
19 prudent. However, the hardened experience will no doubt help us.
20
21 Rich