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From: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pending mask of Qt3 and MythTV
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:16:01
Message-Id: eafa4c131002232315p46b926a3ucc0e8daabd2bc2be@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Pending mask of Qt3 and MythTV by Ben de Groot
1 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
2 > Hi,
3 >
4 > As the Gentoo Qt team has announced six months ago, Qt3 is about to be
5 > masked now (see bug 283429). We sent another mail with a timeline at
6 > the end of December. Most of the issues surrounding the mask and
7 > removal of Qt3 have been solved. But we see ourselves confronted with
8 > one remaining issue: MythTV. Its current stable version uses Qt3, but
9 > there is a Qt4 version in testing. In all this time the MythTV
10 > maintainers have not taken any action.
11
12 Incorrect. You came to me a few months ago and I told you I would not
13 and will not have time to mess with the package at all. I think I've
14 made that clear in past mailing list posts, discussions we've had, and
15 on bugzilla. Many people have spoken up about the situation and time
16 and time again I've said "please, take over the package. It needs to
17 be stabilized and a new unstable bump needs to happen." You took one
18 of those times to create a ticket saying you'd stabilize it, then
19 deferred to me and the arch teams. My response was the arch teams
20 haven't stabilized MythTV in years because none of them have a setup
21 to test it, so please stabilize it. I'm running it on a stable
22 machine.
23
24 I do not have my Gentoo commit machine up and running right now. I've
25 only got my MythTV machines running x86 and amd64 with MythTV running
26 ~arch for a while now. So I ask you once again, PLEASE just mark it
27 stable. SOMEONE. And quit accusing anyone of inaction.
28
29 As far as the news item goes, as I've said before. Its completely
30 unnecessary since MythTV will handle notifying you properly if you
31 need to do anything to your database. I can count more than a dozen
32 people on Gentoo that have successfully done the conversion without
33 issue. The problem stems from people either not reading the
34 instructions when MythTV tells them they need to take action and read
35 the update guide. Or people stupidly reading the upgrade guide,
36 thinking "oh I'll upgrade my DB early" and upgrading their DB and then
37 running their old version. A news item will probably do more harm than
38 good and will result in a lot of partial corruptions, which we already
39 have one person on the bug you guys made for the news item already
40 doing.
41
42 --
43 Doug Goldstein

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pending mask of Qt3 and MythTV Richard Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Pending mask of Qt3 and MythTV Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o>