On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:36 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> Le dimanche 20 avril 2008 à 20:25 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit :
> > On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@g.o> wrote:
> > > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing
> > > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional
> > > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like
> > > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not cast
> > > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in
> > > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D).
> >
> > Lazy is the word.
> > I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome
> > herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve
> > conflict).
> > The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd
> > use yet another confusing USE flag.
> > This is not the right way to maintain long term constants.
>
> failure, you tried to argue ;)
>
> > You asked for objections... You got some.
> >
> > You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term.
> > Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name.
> > You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users.
>
> Seriously though, when I find stuff to fix, I try to fix it. I just
> don't see anything to fix right now.
There are currently three options in my mind: to rename the USE flag as
'gnome-keyring', to just globalize the 'keyring' USE flag as is, or to
remove the USE flag completely. Each have a number of downs and ups:
Renaming
1) We have to change 9 ebuilds to reflect the change
2) Almost all Gnome users will be affected in one way or another
3) Technically correct
4) Reduces chances of future collisions
5) More work for developers
Keeping it as is
1) Less headache for Gnome users in the short term (but possibly
more if we rename it in the future
2) Less work for me/Gnome herd
3) Technically incorrect
4) Could result in conflicts in the future
Removing
1) Nice and simple. Just force all packages to compile with
--gnome-keyring
2) A large number of users will probably start complaining about
all their packages being compiled with gnome-keyring support
3) Xfce people will hate hate hate, I will be crucified.
After consideration of the above, and consultation with the Gnome herd,
I think that the best option would be to rename the USE flag to
gnome-keyring.
If anyone has any objections to *that*, pipe up before tomorrow evening.
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