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From: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:14:25
Message-Id: 4A8D21E7.2040604@trelane.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' by Steven J Long
1 Steven J Long wrote:
2 > Rémi Cardona wrote:
3 >
4 >
5 >> Le 18/08/2009 03:30, Steven J Long a écrit :
6 >> [snip]
7 >>
8 >> Steven,
9 >>
10 >> This thread was dead for more than 4 days. Yet you pick it up and you
11 >> try to pick a fight with Ciaran.
12 >>
13 >>
14 > No I was answering the points he made, specifically he gave the fact that
15 > something's not used in the tree as a reason not to put it in PMS. The
16 > prior mail about an alternative perspective on the process was about his
17 > continual digs at portage and its developers. You're right that much of it
18 > was more relevant to -project, but when I post there it gets ignored:
19 > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_6c82019575749b628de20de060149782.xml
20 > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/msg_28e2659029951f7edeab10b01cd21d53.xml
21 >
22
23 I think it's clear at this point that Ciaran was the wrong person to
24 have in charge of the PMS or EAPI spec's despite his willingness to do
25 the work.. I tried to talk to him about having Paludis support an
26 extension of PMS which Portage already supported. His response was to
27 DEMAND that portage change his behavior and throw warnings about this
28 because it wasn't in the PMS (which I will note is an accurately
29 acronym'd document).
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31 ttp://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273261
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33 The users simply don't care about this stuff, and throwing warnings at
34 every user in the manner advocated is abuse.
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36 This sort of behavior simply needs to stop. Using bugs.gentoo.org to
37 attack Funtoo, which utilizes Portage, in the manner which has been done
38 usurps the Gentoo Council's authority, the Portage devs, Funtoo, and
39 most importantly our ability to innovate.
40 And hell, if we're not going to innovate, lets all please pack up and go
41 home.
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43 Andrew D Kirch
44 Funtoo
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50 Andrew D Kirch
51 Funtoo.org

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com>