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From: Thomas Beierlein <tomjbe@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:22:12
Message-Id: 20110414132116.3315a767@test
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item by "Tomá? Chvátal"
1 On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:51:55 +0200
2 Tomá? Chvátal <scarabeus@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote:
5 > > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the
6 > > written stuff.
7 > >
8 > > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same.
9 > > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what
10 > > your have wrote.
11 > > This can be a major headache if you have few systems that are doing
12 > > auto updates.
13 > > I would solve this issue by stopping the emerge and getting the
14 > > attention of the user.
15 > > If I don't get the attention of the user, no openrc will be
16 > > installed. It should be something like emerge -C ... 1 .2 3 4 5...
17 > >
18 > > To conclude, you can't issue such a change without proper
19 > > confirmation from the user.
20 > >
21 > This was discussed multiple times, news items are to be read.
22 > Users ignore elog informations/web announcements/... so it was agreed
23 > that news item is agressive enough to user so they must read it.
24 > If they don't do so it is just their fault.
25 > And no runtime changing for portage where it expect some input is
26 > seriously stupid idea, most of us script updates in batch and noone
27 > would actualy read it.
28 >
29 > Never the less as I said we expect user to read that stuff and if he
30 > does not he is on his own due to his dumb approach.
31
32 Maybe we should underline our intention by having that policy
33 documented in the installation handbook. A good place may be section 2
34 "Working with
35 Gentoo" (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2).
36
37 At least all newbies will stumble upon it once.
38
39 Regards,
40 Thomas.

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