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From: Thilo Bangert <bangert@g.o>
Subject: Re: devs on IRC (was :Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support ))
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:06:33 +0100
Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> said:
> On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:15:36 Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > > Bugs aren't a good way to keep in touch with developers, that's
> > > what irc is for.
> >
> > while i dont necessarily think, that bugzi is the best way to stay in
> > contact with me, it surely is a better way than IRC - on which i am
> > close to never.
> >
> > the presumption seems to be, that as a dev one has to be available
> > via IRC. it has long been my feeling that Gentoo as a project could
> > realize more of its potential by better integrating people who dont
> > do IRC.
> >
> > kind regards
> > Thilo
>
> 	To be honest , I don't agree with that. Being around on irc is quite
> helpful to get direct feedback from users and fix bugs before they hit 
> more users. This is a good way to reduce the amount of bugs that hit
> bugzilla.

my complaint isn't about people using IRC. i object to the way that much 
of our knowledge, discussion and decision making process appear to have 
been moved into the temporal black hole that is IRC.

realtime communication is an valuable tool, but IRC has drawbacks as well. 
this is alienating a lot of people who dont happen to be on IRC at the 
right moment/timezone or who dont have the time to be always on.

it looks like many projects within Gentoo have resorted to a communication 
process which uses IRC exclusivly. this is unfortunate...

kind regards
Thilo
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