Thomas Flavel wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 12:18:48PM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote:
> > Thomas Flavel wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:29:01PM -0600, Bryce Porter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tom:
> > > > "I'm just thinking along the lines of a minimum binary system where
> > > > absolutley needed, and compiling specifically everywhere else? I realise this would
> > > > be slow to install on slower systems, but, since we're all power users... ;)
> > > >
> > > > Seriously though, I do think this would be a nice feature, unless there's
> > > > some practicality reason I'm missing."
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I think this is a great idea. I heard of a GNU/Linux distrobution that
> > > > when installed compiled all selected packages from source, making it the
> > > > most optimized you could get for your specific machine. I think it was
> > > > called Rock Linux or something.
> > >
> > > Not heard of it, but a quick search on google reveals the predicatable url:
> > > http://www.rocklinux.org, #rocklinux on irc.openprojects.net.
> > >
> > > Looks to be faily mature (at least they're past 1.0 ;), supports ppc and alpha
> > > as well as x86.
> >
> > Please send me you ppc, alpha, i64, mips, sparc machines and I will do the ports. :-)
>
> I have access to SH3, Arm, possibly Sparc (less possibly ultrasparc :) and ppc, all of
> which I would like to have running gentoo :)

Cool, I think the first step is getting spython, portage and gcc-2.95.2 running. With that it
should be possible
to build that minium-build system I described below for that targets.

>
>
> >
> > > From what I can see it has a binary cd version, with the option
> > > to compile from source (the same thing I was talking about, if I understand them
> > > correctly). It describes it's package management as closer to FreeBSD than debian.
> > > It looks to be quite similar to gentoo to me, although not quite as advanced.
> >
> > I took a look at the site and think that we need something similar to cfengine
> > sometimes.
>
> That looks like a great idea; I was wondering about something similar for configuring
> applications; i.e. some way to save a "theme" for the applications I use (e.g. colours
> for lynx matching the colours for man pages etc if you see what I mean)

You mean the user-specific dor-config-files?

>
>
> >
> > I thougth about a minimum build system too, while I had to go back to i486 from i686.
> > There is another project linux-from-scratch (www.lfs.org i think) that creates a
> > statically linked set
> > of packages required for build first and then builds the rest with that bin's. Such a
> > set would require
> > about 50MB and it is not difficult to make a few modified packages for that.
> > This build-system could be placed on a gentoo-source cd together with a snapshot of the
> > port-tree.
> > Then you whould be able to boot with the source-cd and install a build.tbz2 instead of a
> > sys.tbz2.
> > Then you can chroot to that system and build everything from sources.
> > Additionally this offers the possibility to build gentoo from within another
> > linux-distro.
> >
> > How do you guys think about that?
>
> Sounds excellent to me :)

I have nearly finished that :-)

~achim

>
>
> - Tom
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