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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:42:49
Message-Id: 20100326154037.GB5254@hrair
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item by Zac Medico
1 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 05:35:19AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
2 > On 03/24/2010 08:47 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
3 > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:12:55 -0500
4 > > William Hubbs <williamh@g.o> wrote:
5 > >
6 > >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
7 > >>> We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our
8 > >>> Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request.
9 > >>
10 > >> On the other hand, I can see his point as well. The news item makes it
11 > >> very clear that python-3 cannot be the default python and that python-2
12 > >> needs to be installed.
13 > >
14 > > Again, if it *cannot* be the default python, then it *should not* be installed by default, which is what will happen if it's marked stable and users aren't told to p.mask it. Even then, it'll likely get installed first, as users will probably learn about p.masking it only *after* they install it.
15 >
16 > Do we have a precedent on this, if for example, we look at the last
17 > time that a new slot of java (like 1.5) came out that wasn't
18 > supported by all packages and therefore couldn't be set as the
19 > default system jvm?
20
21 There really isn't a precedent since upgrades of this sort typically
22 either have extremely locked down deps, or just plain don't happen
23 till the vast majority of depndencies are updated. If in doubt, look
24 at the past python upgrades- they've been delayed till all of the
25 major consumers played nice w/ the targeted python version.
26
27 ~harring

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <Arfrever@g.o>