[gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing expat 2.0.0

[Duncan]

"Caleb Tennis" <caleb@g.o> posted
38928.192.168.2.155.1179228617.squirrel@××××××××××××.com, excerpted below,
on  Tue, 15 May 2007 07:30:17 -0400:

> I'd like to open a bug soon requesting the stabiliztion of
> dev-libs/expat-2.0.0*. It's currently assigned to tcltk, but the bug
> traffic seems to indicate they don't know why they have it.  If nobody
> steps up, objects, and is willing to take over maintenance I will do so.
>
> * - This version has a new soname, so it will require a revdep-rebuild,
> which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as of now.

I don't see it mentioned in the bug (128069 anyway) or in the discussion 
so far, and while it might be considered obvious, just in case...

Wasn't the ~ intro of this what precipitated the whole GLEP 42 (news) 
thing?  I know news came up again recently and due to the lack of a news 
reading client for portage, further use was put on hold.  Has that been 
resolved?  Because if there's a place where a preemptive news function is 
needed, this is it!  Thus, if at all possible, having news working and 
using it for this should be SERIOUSLY considered.

Regardless of whether news is ready or not, however, please make sure 
it's covered in GWN at LEAST the week prior, and preferably for a couple 
weeks in a row.  (Yes, an upgrade /can/ be that bad.)  Also, please make 
sure it's announced on the forums and on the user list.  For those that 
don't see it after that, well... at least there'll be plenty of places to 
refer the bug filers to.

Alternatively, this is the /one/ case I've come across where I might 
actually be in favor of putting an IM_SURE_IM_READY_TO_UPGRADE_EXPAT=1 
test in the ebuild, dying if not.  (No, I didn't /think/ that'd go 
anywhere, but seriously, if there's a case where it might be warranted, 
this is it.  Not saying that it is.)

It's probably a bit late now (unless we want to wait yet another few 
months), but tying this to a profile upgrade might have been a more 
practical solution.  2007.0, or now 2007.1.  Old profiles would stick 
with the old expat, and new ones would get the new one.  People are 
generally prepared for at least a /bit/ of extra upheaval when they do 
profile upgrades, and that would have made the PR a bit easier as well, 
since that's a natural time for it.

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