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From: Sebastian Pipping <sping@g.o>
Subject: Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:00:21 +0200

yngwin's devaway message still reads

  "inactive, pending resolution of devrel issue".

yngwin retired.  I woudn't go as far as saying that his case made him
retire but I definitely say that _DevRel failed on his case_.
I believe I had enough insight to be able to say.

I would like to propose these fundamental changes to DevRel:

 1) Make the list of subscribers to the devrel alias public

      Idea: If you share private information you have a right
            to know with whom you share.

 2) Clearly split DevRel into groups for recruiting and conflict
    resolution with distinct aliases.

 3) Let Gentoo developers vote on who's in the conflict resolution
    team just like we do with the council.

 4) Disallow membership with both the conflict resolution group
    and the council at the same time (as the council is where issues
    with devrel are taken to).

      Idea: From insight on cases of DevRel versus members of RevRel
            I can tell this dossn't work well.  I suppose that
            Council against Council-DevRel doesn't work better.

      Problem: Both betelgeuse and jmbsvicetto are DevRel members
               nominated for the upcoming council election.
               As I am also nominated proposing such rule could be
               understood aiming at decreasing their chances on the
               council and increasing mine as a result.  However, as I
               propose to start over with a developer voted conflict
               resolution team this is not the case.  The only
               implication is that if they make it to the council
               they cannot be elected for the conflict resolution team.

DevRel is one of the most important things in Gentoo - we dependend on
that working well.  If you care about this please make yourself heard.



Re: Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel
-- Roy Bamford
Re: Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel
-- Markos Chandras
Re: Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel
-- Petteri R├Ąty
Re: Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel
-- Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
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