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From: Jeff Rose <rosejn@××××××××.EDU>
To: gentoo-dev@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:55:00
Message-Id: Pine.GSO.4.40.0304180854290.26157-100000@ucsub.colorado.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] GUI installer by Mark Bainter
1 No problem then. Don't work on it.
2
3 -Jeff
4
5 On Fri, 18 Apr 2003, Mark Bainter wrote:
6
7 > Jeff Rose [rosejn@××××××××.EDU] wrote:
8 > > Well, I'm glad to see that people are interested. After doing some
9 > > initial research I have some thoughts. First, we should decide on whether
10 > > we want to have a terminal or X based installer. Does anyone know how
11 >
12 > You know. I'm sooooooooooooo tired of this topic. Is there
13 > any way we can get this added to the FAQ, with maybe a link
14 > to the oh, 20 or 30 threads about this that have popped up
15 > already on this list?
16 >
17 > While it won't stop everyone, more people read FAQs than
18 > search mailing lists before posting I'm sure. At least it'd
19 > cut it down a little right?
20 >
21 > > well the generic vesa driver works for X? I personally have battled with
22 > > X so many times that I'm not sure I think its worth it for an installer.
23 >
24 > No. It isn't. But not because of battling with it, but because
25 > once you do it you instantly bloat the size of the install CD.
26 >
27 > Thanks, but no thanks. -blech-
28 >
29 > > (Although we could just use the RedHat stuff for autodetection etc. if we
30 > > want to go that direction.) Besides X we could use ncurses dialog
31 > > widgets or another terminal gui package. I was thinking it would be cool
32 > > to use somethine lighter than X like svgalib. I have no experience with
33 >
34 > Ok, I'm going to summarize my opinion on this into just a short
35 > blurb. I'm sorry for not being more verbose, but I just went
36 > through all this not more than a couple weeks ago.
37 >
38 > A GUI installer lowers the bar for entry on gentoo. Right now
39 > many people who might want to use Gentoo, but are yet ready for
40 > it do not attempt to use it because the install holds the bar
41 > too high. That's a good thing. If we lower the bar so anyone's
42 > grandma can install Gentoo, anyone's grandma will be flooding
43 > the gentoo lists and forums with worthless questions that should
44 > not need to be asked by someone using Gentoo.
45 >
46 > Gentoo is not a newbie distribution, and putting a pretty
47 > installer on the front of it, regardless of its flexibility,
48 > presents a representation of the skill level required to
49 > use and maintain it.
50 >
51 > So, once again, I vote NO on a GUI installer.
52 >
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