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From: Josh Saddler <nightmorph@g.o>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:34:06 -0700

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Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Reading around on the net, it amazes me how many people are using 
> developer profiles for their Gentoo because they think it's for software 
> developers and don't see that it's for Gentoo developers and not 
> intended for end users.  They know the "Developer" installation profiles 
> of other distros and think Gentoo's profiles are just the same (on those 
> distros, selecting a dev profile just means it installs GCC + dev libs + 
> IDEs by default.)
> 
> Some kind of warning or other mechanism that does selecting this profile 
> without knowing what you're doing would be a good idea.
> 

*shrug* If people would _read_ the documentation, such as 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml or 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap2, 
then they would know what the profiles are for.

I don't think we should start making certain profiles harder to use. 
Maybe if profiles.desc had a more explanatory entry on the developer 
profile so that users know what's up with it. Or better yet, include an 
entry in the eselect profile module that prints a brief description of a 
given profile, or at least references the various documentation on profiles.

Oh, and FYI, gcc (and complete toolchain) and various development 
libraries are already installed by default -- that's the nature of using 
a source-based distro; all that stuff needs to be there to do anything, 
so it's already included.

At no point will merely "selecting a new profile" actually install 
anything. As always, you have to go through the package manager if you 
want something installed.

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