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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@...>
Subject: Re: zlib breakage
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 02:26:15 +0300
On 09/24/2011 02:10 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@...>  wrote:
>> I believe something needs to be done with the zlib- and -r2
>> packages currently in the tree.  The maintainer of zlib pushed those
>> revisions with a patch that alters macro identifiers, making Gentoo's zlib
>> incompatible with upstream.  As a result, a lot of packages stopped
>> building.  Bug reports for broken packages come in and then are being
>> modified to fit Gentoo's zlib.
>> Breaking compatibility with upstream zlib also means that non-portage
>> software, the ones I install with "./configure --prefix=$HOME/usr&&  make
>> install", also won't build.
>> [...]
> It seemed to me like this was a silly problem from the outset. vapier
> did arguably the right thing, and if that means exposing some broken
> software, fine. We handle plenty of breakage worse than this, but I
> understand that it can be inconvenient.
> However, you completely lost any support when you said
>> Yes, bad idea.  But it's in my liberty to write code however I see fit.
> That just makes me want to slap you.
> I'll echo what vapier said in response: it's absolutely your
> prerogative to do whatever you want, but it's not our responsibility
> to make sure that it works in Gentoo.

The code is perfectly valid.  You cannot force people to follow your 
coding standards.  If it's valid C code, it doesn't matter that it 
contradicts your personal preferences.  It's not your code and you don't 
have a saying in it.  What's next, banning software that indents code 
with tabs instead of spaces?

>> It's a bad call. You've made plenty of those lately. This is just another one.
>> IMO, you don't have the skills and insight to mess with this stuff. So when you
>> try, breakage happens. I hope you retire soon.
> Are you kidding me? Grow up.

This was just another episode of Vapier's hostile and arrogant behavior 
towards users.  Every time someone comes up with a valid argument of why 
he's wrong, the final answer is "don't care, I do what I please because 
I'm the dev and you're not."  So my reply was the politest I could come 
up with without using the f-word.

Re: Re: zlib breakage
-- Alec Warner
Re: Re: zlib breakage
-- Nirbheek Chauhan
zlib breakage
-- Nikos Chantziaras
Re: zlib breakage
-- Matt Turner
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